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Offline TomR

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Suggestion for Series 3
« on: September 18, 2009, 05:06:39 pm »
So now that we have official word (Steve, you are official, right?) that the suggestion box is open for Series 3, I want to start.

Last night I heard the San Francisco Symphony play Mahler's Symphony 1 with MTT, of course. An overwhelming performance, by the way, and when I was not being either overwhelmed emotionally (the first time that Mahler 1 has ever had that effect on me) or noting details I have never heard before (I had never picked up on the connection between the first movement of Mahler 1 and the Forest Murmurs scene in Wagner's Siegfried before, nor the similiarities in the construction of the 4th movement of Mahler 1 and Beethoven's 9th), I was thinking to myself how inadequate home playback is to convey the impact of a work such as this.

Perhaps the solution is....drum roll.....a release of Mahler 1 by the Tape Project (I could also go for a Mahler 4, by the way, but the sounds of Mahler 1 are still in my head).

As we talked about at the gathering at Larry Toy's, there is a real issue with what performance is chosen when it comes to classical. of course, I think a lot depends on what is available. My first choices, performance wise, might be Kubelik on DG or Horenstein on Unicorn - both, of course, were once available on RTR tape - the Horenstein from Barclay Crocker (I have it), but I would be happy with something that was from Decca (the Solti) for example.


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Re: Suggestion for Series 3
« Reply #1 on: September 18, 2009, 09:44:06 pm »
I like Tom's suggestion of Mahler's 1st. I don't know the Kubelik, but I also have the Horenstein on B/C and on Unicorn vinyl. I like its combination of performance and sonics.   Another great performance with fine sonics (unusually good for US Columbia) is Bruno Walter's recording. It was an Absolute Sound Super Disc selection. As I remember reading, Walter studied under Mahler and debuted some of his later works. THe first is one of the two shortest of Mahler's symphonies, but still is over 50 minutes long. One thing is that all the recordings I have of the 1st have a side change in the middle of the 3rd movement - the funeral march.  Doing it on tape should be able to keep the 3rd movement intact. However, it means, for the Walter recording, that the second tape would be about 32 minutes long, close to the limit of the 2500' tapes - with the leaders that TP likes to use.  In any case, Mahler's 1st Sym is a wonderful introduction into Mahler's music - a truly great symphony.
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Re: Suggestion for Series 3
« Reply #2 on: September 28, 2009, 11:55:07 am »
i think you should include some classicall jazz and classic music plus the milstone of rock and pop music like Beatles etc.

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Re: Suggestion for Series 3
« Reply #3 on: September 28, 2009, 01:50:38 pm »
I do like the idea of the monumental Mahler 1st. I have been exploring more of Mahler's work of late, spending some time with the Mehta/Vienna 2nd on London (Super Analogue Disc reissue KIJC-9139). I like Solti's interpretation of the 1st, also on London.
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Re: Suggestion for Series 3
« Reply #4 on: September 28, 2009, 04:17:34 pm »
It turns out that Solti recorded the 1st twice - once with the LSO, and once with Chicago.  I have never heard the former, and have not heard the latter for quite a few years, so I can't give any recommendation about the preferred Solti version. It all comes down to what's available to be licensed, anyway. I would gladly participate on a panel to opine on which version to choose, by the way, although I would plump for single malt scotch over gin and tonics.
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Re: Suggestion for Series 3
« Reply #5 on: September 28, 2009, 05:32:07 pm »
How about something from (Art Pepper)? (Dexter Gordon)? or anything from Blue Note that's Hard Bop!!! I almost forgot what about some (George Benson)???

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Re: Suggestion for Series 3
« Reply #6 on: September 30, 2009, 10:35:21 am »
Yes indeed,
Dexter Gordon, anything from the Blue Note years!
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Re: Suggestion for Series 3
« Reply #7 on: September 30, 2009, 08:47:42 pm »
I am an ardent Blue Note fan, so almost any of the recent vinyl reissue titles we're seeing now would be fabulous to see on the Tape Project.

What about some classic, well recorded rock? Are these too difficult or expensive to obtain? I'm thinking along the lines of some old Pink Floyd (pre DSOTM, but that would be cool, too); Fleetwood Mac, James Taylor (wow does his catalog have some great sounding stuff), Dire Straights and others of that era. Suggestions welcome!

I also have a personal favorite artist I'd love to see on the TP: Pat Metheny. His performance on MoFi's new "Pilgrimage" LP of Michael Brecker is wonderful, and his material from 1976-1986 in analog is luscious.

Just some thoughts!
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Re: Suggestion for Series 3
« Reply #8 on: September 30, 2009, 10:52:06 pm »
some random thoughts.....

for Series 3 i support the idea stated above for a large Orchestral work, and Mahler's 1st Symphony would be a good choice from my perspective of limited knowledge of Classical music. i love Classical, it makes up 30% of my listening, but i'm not very knowledgable. it might be good to have a couple really knowledgable members be able to consult during the selection process as to the better performances.

i would like to see some Jazz in the Big Band direction; something with some real energy. ideally it could be Duke Ellington or maybe Count Basie. but Harry James or some other 'golden age' Big Band might be great too. all the Jazz we have so far is small combo. a big band recording should be stereo, not mono. there is nothing like a big band at full-tilt boogie. those of us with full-range systems would like some music that gives those type systems a bit of a workout.

i listen to many different types of guitar music. along those lines i might suggest Leo Kottke (A Shout Toward Noon), Doc Watson (Third Generation Blues) and agree with those above mentioning Ry Cooder (although not specifically 'BVSC') and Pat Metheny.

we can dream about Pink Floyd, or the Beatles, or Led Zepplin. those aren't gonna happen. But a guy like Neil Young might agree to something based on his view of analog recordings......or maybe Donald Fegan and Walter Becker of Steely Dan could be convinced to offer one of their gems.....maybe worth a try.

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Re: Suggestion for Series 3
« Reply #9 on: December 23, 2009, 10:29:12 pm »
\...or maybe Donald Fegan and Walter Becker of Steely Dan could be convinced to offer one of their gems.....maybe worth a try.

I so agree Mike! I've been joyfully immersing myself in Brilliant Corners since it arrived, and in my sleep it occurred to me a Tape Project release of Gaucho (my favorite--the Larry Carlton guitar solo on "Third World man" will live forever) or Aja would just simply be a sonic home run.

Doc and company--what do you think? Might we dream?

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Re: Suggestion for Series 3
« Reply #10 on: December 24, 2009, 04:21:05 am »
Did someone say Art Pepper? Certainly something from the Contemporary catalogue engineered by the great Roy DuNann - and there's plenty of Pepper there to season our Season :o)

Brian.

PS My son has just suggested a Blue Note - Cannonball Adderley's "Somethin' Else".
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Re: Suggestion for Series 3
« Reply #11 on: December 29, 2009, 07:29:11 am »
I might add that something from (Crosby Stills & Nash) would be awesome!!! Can you say (Deja vu)!!! Or maybe even something from (America) alot of acoustics!!!

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Re: Suggestion for Series 3
« Reply #12 on: January 27, 2010, 07:39:06 pm »
Eva Cassidy moves me. No one sings "Natural woman" like she does. She also does a beautiful rendition of "What a wonderful world"and "tall trees in Georgia". Unfortunately she passed away at a young age. Her parents have done a good job of getting her music out there. Maybe, just maybe they have the master recordings
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Re: Suggestion for Series 3
« Reply #13 on: February 27, 2010, 06:37:58 pm »
Hello,

For Series III, I respectfully propose...Stevie Wonder: Talking Book and Innervisions.

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Mahler 1....yet again
« Reply #14 on: March 11, 2011, 12:56:58 am »
At the risk of becoming really boring, I just finished listening to my B/C tape of Mahler's First, conducted by Horenstein. I have a goal of listening to all of my Mahler this year, the 100th anniversary of Mahler's death, and I was struck yet again what a great release this symphony would be for the Tape Project.
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